Oh yeah I understand. I hadn't thought too much on the credittign disney on each frame or whatever since most of my stuff is photo-manip'd so its not direct copying and i do put the credits in the beginning or the end in a traditional style, so im obviously not trying to steal credit. For a music vid without most photo-manip'ing as I do, the watermark does make a lot of sense. And I wasn't trying to put down the idea with mentioning it could be editted out- I just wanted to put that out there so people looking for WM'ing for their own protection know its limits. Great thread by the way, I'm sorry I can't contribute better directions/screen caps for the programs I use.