vid feedback/critique offer

[permetaform]

So. Like recently I've been pretty much thinking about vids non-stop and I've been going into vid farr except I'm preventing myself from 'farr-ing which hasn't really been working, 'cause like, Eternal Sunshine vid is nearing done and Prophesy vid is pretty much there too (will try to bring both to MD's for beta).

And, of course, wonderful vid discussion going around here. And in answer to part of that discussion, more discussion here.

And both of them has mention of the issue of getting honest and thorough critique, because for people who are searching for this sort of analysis this kind of critique is extremely hard to find. I am not saying that there is anything wrong with not wanting analysis, and I'm not trying to disturb other people enjoyment of entertainment for entertainment's sake. But what I, myself (and I'm only speaking for myself), like to do is attempt to understand why things work the way they do on a subconscious level. What I try to do in this attempt-to-understand-the-workings-of-things is to understand how to help a vid reach out to different people on several levels. So I, personally, would *love* to get a review of this nature: sort of a "roses and thorns", so that I can see what I'm doing wrong so I can change it as well as finding out what I'm doing right, so that I can do more of it.

Both tazey and sdwolfpup has mentioned LJ comms for this and forums and many ideas are being batted around, go add your own input too! =D

And in the effort to perhaps generate discussion, how about this: If you're a vidder and would like your vid publicly reviewed, comment with a link to your vid, and I'll do so in a public post. I'll address in-depth vidding techinique from the barebones of the technical, all the way up to narrative; and attempt to understand the aim of your vid and try to give critique that might perhaps help you reach the aim more fully. But I won't give a piece of critque without a piece of squee, so the feedback will have it at a 1:1 ratio; and I'll host the discussion in the post.

In return, and if you find the review helpful, I wouldn't mind a review of any my vids that you feel up to reviewing.

Granted, there are some vids that I don't know if I can help, because they are beyond my level or because I can't quite tell what their aim was and thus don't know *how* to help. Or, in the case of lierdumoa, we think far too much alike and I can't really help her. In any case, I'll tell you that and try to find someone who *can* help.

Good idea / bad idea? I thought I might throw the concept and offer out, can't know if you don't try, eh?

current list
- Pluto (Buffy) by river_boat: done
- Be My Luck (Cupid) by jackiekjono: done
- Live Till I Die (HtLJ) by marycrawford: done
- Feelin' Alright (P.Rangers) by kimera: in progress
- Between (Buffy) by yhlee
- Crucify (The Reckoning) by sofiaaifos
- Lady Lady Lady (The Heart of Me) by sofiaaifos
- I Am You (Gangster no 1) by sex_and_tea
- Tango (Cambridge Spies, Dealers, Carrington) by commodorified

Comments

[river-boat.livejournal.com]

Oh, yes please. Real Player version or Windows Media Player version. I know that this is a fandom that you're not all that familiar with (Buffy) but I think in the case of this vid, thats almost a plus. My primary focus was visualising the music through effects and various other techniques.

I have been meaning to feedback "Sunburned" for a while now, so will be more than happy to get onto that ASAP.

[jackiekjono.livejournal.com]

I would love to get those kind of reviews as well and almost never do. I think I give off a fragile vibe and people are afraid to hurt my feelings.

What they don't realize is that whatever they say, even if it is negative or perceived as negative by me, it cannot possibly be worse than any of the horrible things I've said about my own poor, abused little mutant vid-children. Often, I find something intended as a negative comment to be reassuring as in "Oh, they actually got part of that and didn't like it." as opposed to "No one understands what I am trying to do."

It would be incredibly useful to know what people understand and what they find confusing or how they interpret what I've done rather than having to guess.

[marycrawford.livejournal.com]

Oh, I love you for offering this.

My lone finished vid is Live Till I Die (http://www.squidge.org/~marycrawford/vids/index.html). (It's also on the Escapade 2005 set.) Critical feedback very very welcome. I'm working on a second vid, in another fandom, and there are so many things that I have to gain a feeling for - color palettes, effects, intercutting, fast cuts, all the shiny that you handle so well - without losing the thread of the vid.

How would you want to organize this, with the return review? In separate posts, me in my LJ and you in yours? Or maybe just all in comments here?

And also, I was thinking that seeing other vidders ask for feedback here makes me want to respond, at least to say what I liked in their vid - is it OK to do that in this post, or any others you put up? Because I read the above and now I want to tell Jackie what I thought about "I Saw Her Standing There", but only if you don't mind. :-)

[kimera.livejournal.com]

If you wouldn't mind reviewing a vid from an unfamiliar fandom: Feelin' Alright (http://kimera.anyanka.net/suburbn/prvids.htm).

[commodorified.livejournal.com]

yes, please

Tango, ideally, as that's the one I've had the least f/b on ever, but Maid on the Shore" if you'd rather stick to familiar source.

And do me last, please; I'm only online via internet cafes this week and will be a long time doing one of yours in return, so no sense making other people wait.

[linzeestyle.livejournal.com]

Oooh! Oh! Me! If you don't mind critiquing for XF, I just realized that Porcelain's 3-year anniversary was yesterday, so...that one? :)

Linzee

[sofiaaifos.livejournal.com]

I would love to get some feedback, because I usually make vids in very small fandoms (or rather I make vids from films that doesn't have a fandom at all) and thus it's hard to get any kind of feedback.

I would love to get some help with my two recent vids. Since I finished these two I have kind of lost my inspiration...I don't know what to do next and right now vidding feels complicated. Maybe if I get some pointers, if I knew what I need to work on and what I'm doing that is ok, I will be able to get some new ideas.

Choose one of the vids if you don't have time to do both! And I'm of course happy to give you some feedback in return. Choose one or two of your vids that you would like me to comment on. :)

If you follow the links you will find both mpg and wmv versions...

Crucify (http://www.livejournal.com/users/sofiaaifos/24485.html)
Song: Crucify by Tori Amos
Film: The Reckoning (With Paul Bettany and Willem Defoe)
In this vid I was playing around with editing and special effects more than trying to tell a clear narrative.

Lay Lady Lay (http://www.livejournal.com/users/sofiaaifos/39901.html)
Song: Lay Lady Lay by Bob Dylan
Film: The Heart of Me
In this one I was on the other hand trying to tell a story and I tried to keep the editing as simple as possibe and just work on the narrative.

[sex-and-tea.livejournal.com]

I would love to get some feedback on my latest vid I am You for the movie Gangster no 1. It might help to know that Paul Bettany's character as an old man is played by Malcolm McDowell. In case you've downloaded the vid before this is a new version of it that I uploaded today.

I'd be happy to review one of yours. It will probably be your vid for either Hero or The Fifth Element.