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Monday, July 11th, 2005 04:55 pm
TONE SHIFTS.

dude, no WONDER I was getting so confused with the accents. asklhdfukjh.
Monday, July 11th, 2005 05:32 pm (UTC)
I can say some words in canto. Words that are absolutely useless, like 'fat girl' and 'pork spare ribs' and chinese buns and things like that. But mandarin is a lot different, and the parents, if I must learn an oriental language, want me to learn Mandarin instead of canto because canto is dying out.

Aside: why are there so many different dialects? I know that cantonese is also called 'namsoon' or it is by the speakers of Chinese in Mauritius. I know there's a different kind of Chinese called Hakka or something like that. And then there's Mandarin which is dissimilar to both. It's rather disconcerting.
Monday, July 11th, 2005 07:02 pm (UTC)
Yes I did, actually. :) Wish I understood any of what they were saying. I insisted on watching it in its original mandarin. My sister folded when she heard the language. It was beauty, really.
Tuesday, July 12th, 2005 12:22 pm (UTC)
Why not ask: "Why do people call all those different languages spoken in China 'dialects'?"
Tuesday, July 12th, 2005 01:04 pm (UTC)
why are there so many different dialects?

Because half of them aren't really dialects, but their own separate language. Ancient China started as a small kingdom ('Hero' is surprisingly accurate in some ways) that rapidly expanded and conquered 'non-Chinese' people, then forced them to speak only the Chinese language. Eventually everybody had sex till we mostly look alike, but the diverse original ethnic groups survive in the different Chinese dialects. And then you get into the Chinese diaspora and how Chinese settlers merged their native dialects with the languages of foreign countries, and the various barbarian invasions from Russia, which added their languages...

Also, China's geography meant that a lot of regions were pretty separated from each other until modern times. It wasn't v. easy to travel from north to south--most of the rivers run east-west, and same for the mountain ranges. There wasn't really a Mississippi River either--both the Yellow and the Yangtze (two biggest rivers in China) have large sections of rapids that were impossible to cross till modern times). That's why a lot of perceived differences between intra-Chinese groups are associated with north or south.