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The original Debate thread
In process of being discussed/updated...erm, and contains Elizabeth and Jack musings too...
last updated around 10:30, PLEASE point out redundancies and points of disagreements...(ie, the questionmark next to Will's confidence,..)
Agreements:
Will in a fantasy world
Will has a strong childside
Will as a computer geek
Will is competent in his field of knowledge
Will's field of knowledge is a bit limited at times
Will being a dumbass sometimes
Will being young
Will growing up throughout the movie
Will is illiterate
Will's confidence(?)
Elizabeth is ruthless
Elizabeth is pirate-y
Elizabeth is adaptable in pirate situations
Elizabeth is a romantic
Jack is on Jack's side
Jack doesn't like to get his own hands dirty
Will is able to learn
Will is sheltered emotionally
Will realizes Undead Pirate
Will is rash
Will is emotionally suppressed by the established hierarchy.
Differences:
How rash IS Will?
Degree of Will's suppression by the established hierarchy
Piracy-Justifiable in the end? (would matter towards Will's view of pirates at the end)
Degree of growth in the movie
Will's competency
Will's confidence(?)
Will has logic/common sense
Trigger Paradoxes:
definition: an action that would definitively prove a characterization one way or another that is non-canon; ie. if Jack pulled the Trigger and shot Will in the smithy.
Shooting Will, y or n?
Will telling Elizabeth (in cave) he loves her
Elizabeth knowing that Jack is a pirate when she first wakes up
Will being nicely dressed at Jack's hanging
Sequel theories:
Elizabeth turning evil
Note: ok, I HAVE to study for my math final (::kicks linear algerbra books::), so I'm AWOL until about...4 pm (Pacific)? that should give jaida and cali time to come back from lunch and get settled.
In the meanwhile, feel free to leave your thoughts on the matter.
In process of being discussed/updated...erm, and contains Elizabeth and Jack musings too...
last updated around 10:30, PLEASE point out redundancies and points of disagreements...(ie, the questionmark next to Will's confidence,..)
Agreements:
Will in a fantasy world
Will has a strong childside
Will as a computer geek
Will is competent in his field of knowledge
Will's field of knowledge is a bit limited at times
Will being a dumbass sometimes
Will being young
Will growing up throughout the movie
Will is illiterate
Will's confidence(?)
Elizabeth is ruthless
Elizabeth is pirate-y
Elizabeth is adaptable in pirate situations
Elizabeth is a romantic
Jack is on Jack's side
Jack doesn't like to get his own hands dirty
Will is able to learn
Will is sheltered emotionally
Will realizes Undead Pirate
Will is rash
Will is emotionally suppressed by the established hierarchy.
Differences:
How rash IS Will?
Degree of Will's suppression by the established hierarchy
Piracy-Justifiable in the end? (would matter towards Will's view of pirates at the end)
Degree of growth in the movie
Will's competency
Will's confidence(?)
Will has logic/common sense
Trigger Paradoxes:
definition: an action that would definitively prove a characterization one way or another that is non-canon; ie. if Jack pulled the Trigger and shot Will in the smithy.
Shooting Will, y or n?
Will telling Elizabeth (in cave) he loves her
Elizabeth knowing that Jack is a pirate when she first wakes up
Will being nicely dressed at Jack's hanging
Sequel theories:
Elizabeth turning evil
Note: ok, I HAVE to study for my math final (::kicks linear algerbra books::), so I'm AWOL until about...4 pm (Pacific)? that should give jaida and cali time to come back from lunch and get settled.
In the meanwhile, feel free to leave your thoughts on the matter.
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Will is emotional, and whenever emotional things are concerned, he tends to act rashly, with his heart rather than his mind.
Will is also extremely perceptive and observes the little details. Such as the part in which he asks Jack about his father, Jack's first usage of the word "leverage," and Jack filching the coin from the treasure chest.
And a random blurp of mine: Will's social status as a blacksmith. Poor fellow, gets backhanded because of the occupation he does. You can clearly see that there are times in the movie when the others comment about his blacksmith-iness. What Will's precise feelings are towards his particular social status is a thing to be debated.
As for Elizabeth. I view her as a pragmatic mixed with that strong touch of loyalty and idealism a la: Fine I'll wear this dress so I won't have to go naked among a bunch of other piratey folk. And... We must save Will!
The interesting thing about Elizabeth is that she clearly does not care about Will's social status or whatever strictures that society poses on her. Will, on the other hand, is conscious to a certain degree. Best demostrated in the scene after the Govennor compliments Will's master.