SGA meta: Season 2's arc and Allies

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There was discussion on this topic in another post, but the main thing I think people agreed on was that Season's 2's arc spun around the issue of trust.

Even more?

"Thou shalt *trust* despite overwheeeeeeeelming odds."

Almost every episode followed this pattern from Epiphany to Critical Mass to Coup D'Etat to Inferno. They met three societies who at first (and maybe fifth) glance thought that Atlanteans were Shady Motherfuckers, so that by the end of the season, the concept of Trust has been POUNDED into their heads throughout the whole season.

...and then you have Allies.

And Atlanteans being STUPID, which is kinda like, as liviapenn pointed out, is frequently like saying "John wears black". And not only that, but they'd assumed that the Wraith was *stupider* than they are, over and over and over again and wow but that's unbelieeeeevable hubris and cockyness and arrogance. Which, perhaps is Weir, John, and Rodney in a nutshell.

oh god, I *love* my show! I swear I've watch the second half of Season 2 basically screaming at the screen in all sorts of delight. Michael came completely as a surprise to me, I'd avoided trailers and I blanked out my speculations in my head, and wow. Wow. They visually framed the SGA crew as villains. They actually went full out with the villains thing. ::POINTS AT ICON:: Delighted. Beyond. Words.

Comments

[fancyfox.livejournal.com]

I had so much trouble d/l Allies, I thought it might be a sign. o_O Will it spoil me for the fic?

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...I...don't think so? You had the characterizations mostly down, especially in the latter half, and it's a logical progression from the rest of season 2. I think you're good?

[fancyfox.livejournal.com]

Cool! Thanks. :D How are ye?

[tallulah71.livejournal.com]

Is it just me or is Elizabeth much less decisive than she was in season one? I mean she asked Ronon for advice. I kept thinking, this ain't no democracy, just make a decision. She was also heavily influenced during "Critical Mass" in regards to Kavanagh. I know she's not a dictator, but one of the best things about her, IMO, is the fact that she's not military, yet she has ultimate authority. Oh and I agree that the Atlanteans are full fledged villians at this point. Playing God and sleeping with the enemy ain't just movie titles anymore. :)

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I keep flipping between she's being indecisive and doing this...thing...that I've seen this one friend of mine do, where she's basically made her decision already and manipulates or is just checking that everyone is behind her so that she's not fully responsible. The thing with Critical Mass is that I got the sense that she was heading in that direction already and was looking for backup.

lierdumoa's pointed out that she's trying to utterly divorce Atlantis from the military control of the SGC, and yet she has never had any experience with battle/war/military. So to make up for this hole in her knowledge she has John, who she can influence/control/whathaveyou, and Ronon who she totally befuddles and who is indebted to her for a home/place-to-fight-from.

Worth pondering though, is how, as you've said, this makes her less decisive in the end. I wonder/hope that TPTB might take this and run with it so we can maybe see the implications of this outside of battle situations.

[20thcenturyvole.livejournal.com]

Oooh. *bounce* You know what you need to make? An icon like that one with Michael. 'The POW - PROTAGONIST.'

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...! I will do that eventually! (when rl a bit less frenzied...)