of greetings, and food.

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sometime a couple of days ago I remember finding out that the traditional Tazanian response to the greeting, "How are you?", is, "Strong."

In some parts of China, some parts of Beijing, one of the morning greetings is, "Have you eaten?"

I am practicing the chinese radicals, and I can't help but notice that "eat" is a permutation of "defiance".

huh.

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[nightfallrising.livejournal.com]

'Cause of the biting.
(radicalsquee)

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XD ::manfully restrains comment::

oo, wait, do you know chinese?? ::bouncy::

[wildelamassu.livejournal.com]

*metaglomp*

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=D ::grins and bows::

[lierdumoa.livejournal.com]

In One Piece the subtitles always translate it that Zoro wants to be the strongest swordsman in the world, as opposed to the best. I figured it was some kind of cultural idiom.

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::nods:: might be. I know that in chinese a form of 'best' is directly translated as 'most good', 'strong' has slightly different connotations

[raeofspades.livejournal.com]

I like how, if you combine the word for "female" and "family", you get "marriage". It kind of makes me want to write Gonou/Kanan.

And monkey is made with the side-word-thing that indicates an animal combined with the word for nobleman.

Mmm... Chinese.

man talking about chinese is pure fun

[suffire.livejournal.com]

what's interesting is that the marriage you get from "female" and "family" is the female act of marrying, as in "jia嫁". When you do the manly act of marrying, you get "obtain/take" plus "woman" under it, which is "qu娶".

When interpreted in that fashion, the word for marriage itself can sound really rather interesting, hunyin 婚姻，both having the radical for female, as well as the radical for "cause/opportunity" and "darkness/confusion", which when put together, can roughly translates into, hahaha, marriage is the opportunity for emotional darkness and the cause of psychological confusion. Heh. I never actually looked at these words this way. Wow. This is fun.

Re: man talking about chinese is pure fun

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both having the radical for female, as well as the radical for "cause/opportunity" and "darkness/confusion", which when put together, can roughly translates into, hahaha, marriage is the opportunity for emotional darkness and the cause of psychological confusion. Heh. I never actually looked at these words this way. Wow. This is fun.

::grins and nods:: also fun is watching the permutation of what I mentally call 'action' symbols across the radicals themselves. For intance, most of the actions have what looks like a stylized 'x'. 'hand' is a lid on 'action', 'writing' is a lid on 'hand', 'net' is two actions stuck in a 'border', 'strike' is action plus 'legs'.

What makes this further interesting is that this makes (via forms only) 'woman' a truncation of action (the horizontal lid), where as 'man' is half an action (the lines never cross).

::grins::

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::nods:: HEE!! it's like latin roots for english except they're not roots per se, it's all just THERE. =D

[elvaron.livejournal.com]

I am practicing the chinese radicals, and I can't help but notice that "eat" is a permutation of "defiance".

^_^;;;;;

I never notice these days. Wait, I can't even remember how to write defiance... (are you using simplified chinese or traditional?)

[elvaron.livejournal.com]

Never notice these _things_, I mean.

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o.o ...both? I'm learning the radicals in huge, similarly shaped chunks. Right now I'm on square-based ones...

[suffire.livejournal.com]

wait, really?
I always thought the radicals to "eat" 吃 is a combintation of "mouth"口 and "beg"乞.
another word for "eat", 食，which when taken apart, can go as "person good".

which word for "eat" are you talking about? I'm really curious.

[suffire.livejournal.com]

The aforementioned biting, yao咬，can go as "mouth" "copulation". Take that as you will. hehehehehe.

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::giggledeath::

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the radical for defiance is a mouth with...er, things hanging from the bottom. That's beg I'm guessing?

the version of eat I'm looking at has a 'roof', then a 'lid' on a 'mouth'. The vertical sides of 'mouth' is extended and there's a small dash in the middle of the right leg and at the bottom of the left.

[suffire.livejournal.com]

Is it the word in my icon? Because I cannot think of any other word for eat, for a country obsessed with food, there aren't many chinese words that actually describes the very act of eating. Hm. There are many many words that describe the act of cooking, however.

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yup! that one!

[suffire.livejournal.com]

Yay! Mystery solved. Now I just have to figure out which "defiance" you're referring to, we are really not that much of a defiant nation. The extent of our endurance and perseverance, on the other hand, is *amazing*, we meekly let ourselves be oppressed to death, while breeding lots of kids to make up for the population. So many times through history had half our population been wiped away, and not because of some godforsaken disease, but because of war, and poverty. It's really depressing.

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remove the 'hat' part of your 'eat'...

[suffire.livejournal.com]

but doesn't it mean "good"? I used to get that word for my gradings. You said permutation, I've been trying to search for a word that look like Liang and yet contain the defiant meaning.

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o.0, in my radicals lists (traditional) it's listed under the 6 strokes column as defiance...

ie. mouth with the two 'legs', dash in the middle for the right leg, dash at the end for the left leg.