::rubs forehead::

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...

huh.

okay.

need to come clean now methinks because this is gonna make my brain explode if I don't sort this out for myself

namely, that: I'm still a fan of Jack/Will.

there, I said it. And it's not that I don't see what's to be seen in Jack/Norrington, but. yeah. Browsed and picked at some marvelous fic here and there and still. dunno.

It's not like I don't see the possibilities. But. It just doesn't *ping* in my head. Like, I see the Jack/Elizabeth and Jack/Anamaria. But that's not going to make me hunt down fic.

and I don't quite understand it. Because I *get* it, I can see it too. I just don't *feel* it for some reason. It's like this weird hole where you kinda sense that there *should* be some emotion but there *isn't*.

It's a very freaking odd feeling. And I don't get why I'm feeling this way.

It's not like I don't like adversaries or opposites or equals, I do. ::points at pairingslist:: It's not like I don't find Norrington adorable, and even if he doesn't exactly mush my 'hotness' buttons, neither does Bobby (I-Man) or Legolas or Q or Agent Smith or Xander.

So. I'm not getting this. Just to let you know. Even despite reading the reasonings on everyone's journals.

and let's put myself even more on the weenie roast:

I'm not a fan of Sirius/Remus either.

sorry.


[edit] ::headdesk:: ok. I have gone back and bolded the pertinent parts of this post that are apparently being skipped over.

::facepalm:: people. I *GET* Jack/Norrington. You are singing to the choir here. Also, I *LIKE* adversarial relationships and relationships of equals and opposites. Also, personal asethetics has NOTHING to do with my pairing preferences either way ::points at character list in post:: I LIKE some pairings were I feel no lust at all for one character or another.

Though. ok. I realize that this post may have put the Sparrington people on the defensive. I'll give you that. but, dude. Singing to the choir here. I get it. I just don't understand why it's not *pinging* for me on an emotional level based on my previous pairing inclinations...

[edit2] also: to clarify, I'm *not* objecting to the fact that there's J/N discussion. but. perhaps, not too much to ask that the J/N rhetoric cover more ground than what I'd already covered in the post itself?

[edit3] Figured it out! YAY!

Comments

::glomp!::

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we are so very on the same boat. ship. yeah. And I was mostly fairly sure that I was going to get lynched for the post or something, but the response has been generally positive and cordial (despite the Sparrington'shippers apparently not reading my post...) and I'm at sort of the same place fic-wise because apparently no one is apparently willing to discuss Jack/Will and I'm wondering if everything I saw were just ghosts and it made me not trust my own judgement.

And. Dude. you just may be the first commentor who actually answered the question. You may have a point there with the selfishness...tho it doesn't feel completely like that because.yeah. there's like this lingering, 'is there NO one else who is willing to argue the pair logically?' and 'Can this pair even be argued logically?'

There was a huge discussion back in the beginning about Will's characterization (The Great Will Debate) and a thread where I'd spazzed about them and what seemed like all the replies where something along the lines of 'I don't see it.' And god but that's depressing.

::hugs:: and thank you.

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[niqaeli]

*thanks you again* =D

Seriously, I felt like I was the only reasonably sane person into the movie left who is into Jack/Will (I can't same I'm in the fandom, really, because I got so isolated). Thing is, I'm always up for trying new things! I am not an OTPer, not really. I do have pairings I favour, but I am always doing other, different stuff with those characters.

It's just, I *do* have my pairings I favour, even though they aren't OTPs, because they strike some kind of chord in me, and Jack/Will is one of them.

Norrington is one of my favourite characters, too. I love him to bits, the adorable, dutiful commodore he is, he's a great character. And he pairs for me, too--Norrington/Elisabeth hits me even deeper than jack/will, in some ways. And Jack/Norrington doesn't hit me at all. I mean, in the context of a story, yes, it can hit me and work wonderfully and I enjoy it deeply, but I don't have Jack and Norrington dancing in my head when I'm not reading a story, the way I do with the others. And I *do* have Jack in my head, obviously, and I do have Norrington in my head even, by himself and sometimes with Elisabeth, but I don't have Jack'N'Norrington in there, if you follow.

And, dude, there are characterisation issues with Jack/Will, like I said. I guess I find it more fascinating when those characterisation issues are addressed in the fic, and the pairing and fic work in spite of the problems, and sometimes on rare fascinating occasions, beacuse of them.

But I don't have anyone to discuss that with. In Stargate fandom, I am totally the same way about Jack/Daniel. It's a hugely popular pairing, it's got a lot of fic, a LOT of fic, most of which is crap. Even the absolutely best stuff, the cream of the cream, has issues, because the character's personalities simply would not allow for a lot of the stuff people write. But I love the pairing anyway, and suffer through it. And it helps so much that I do have at least one person, Andrea, to babble at about why Jack and Daniel doesn't work. Because if I know why it doesn't work in canon, if I can better understand their personalities, I can better determine what scenario I could write that might allow it to happen--without comprimising important parts of their personalities.

And I'm babbling so much at you. It's just, wow, it is incredibly awesome to know I'm not alone on this lonely ghost ship and it makes me run at the mouth, I guess.

*wonders if you have AIM* if you do, I'm Atlantean Mage on it. I also have Y!M and MSN, if that's what you prefer.

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And, dude, there are characterisation issues with Jack/Will, like I said. I guess I find it more fascinating when those characterisation issues are addressed in the fic, and the pairing and fic work in spite of the problems, and sometimes on rare fascinating occasions, beacuse of them.

::cries:: I think that may be it!! ::GLOMPS YOU:: and I feel you on the ghost ship thing, I really really do.

I don't have messengers but feel free to email me!

Re: ::glomp!::

[niqaeli]

I SO WILL.

Man.

It really is a ghost ship. You know, there's a ghost town, you can feel the echoes of everyone who walked these paths and had routines. And maybe in this case, there are even ghosts who are still making the flour for the bread, and stuff is still happening...

But it's not alive. It's echoes, ectoplasmic recordings, nothing real, nothing new.

And it's this hugeass frigate, HUGE, so easy to get lost in, to get turned about under deck, and you're all alone, or might as well be--and when you finally run into someone else, it's just amazing, you're NOT alone, you're not the only person who feels like you're watching all these 3D recordings, completely cut off from interacting them.

I've really stretched the metaphor, there, but I think it works. XD

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nahhhh, methinks it lovely stuff! and awful true.