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Sunday, August 10th, 2003 09:11 am
The original Debate thread

In process of being discussed/updated...erm, and contains Elizabeth and Jack musings too...

last updated around 10:30, PLEASE point out redundancies and points of disagreements...(ie, the questionmark next to Will's confidence,..)



Agreements:

Will in a fantasy world
Will has a strong childside
Will as a computer geek
Will is competent in his field of knowledge
Will's field of knowledge is a bit limited at times
Will being a dumbass sometimes
Will being young
Will growing up throughout the movie
Will is illiterate
Will's confidence(?)
Elizabeth is ruthless
Elizabeth is pirate-y
Elizabeth is adaptable in pirate situations
Elizabeth is a romantic
Jack is on Jack's side
Jack doesn't like to get his own hands dirty
Will is able to learn
Will is sheltered emotionally
Will realizes Undead Pirate
Will is rash
Will is emotionally suppressed by the established hierarchy.



Differences:

How rash IS Will?
Degree of Will's suppression by the established hierarchy
Piracy-Justifiable in the end? (would matter towards Will's view of pirates at the end)
Degree of growth in the movie
Will's competency
Will's confidence(?)
Will has logic/common sense


Trigger Paradoxes:

definition: an action that would definitively prove a characterization one way or another that is non-canon; ie. if Jack pulled the Trigger and shot Will in the smithy.

Shooting Will, y or n?
Will telling Elizabeth (in cave) he loves her
Elizabeth knowing that Jack is a pirate when she first wakes up
Will being nicely dressed at Jack's hanging


Sequel theories:

Elizabeth turning evil



Note: ok, I HAVE to study for my math final (::kicks linear algerbra books::), so I'm AWOL until about...4 pm (Pacific)? that should give jaida and cali time to come back from lunch and get settled.

In the meanwhile, feel free to leave your thoughts on the matter.
Sunday, August 10th, 2003 09:36 pm (UTC)
I've already talked with Jaida about this a lot of times, so pretty much, at this point, I stand at the same place. We've definetly managed to write one little scenerio with Jack and Will, which turned out pretty cute, and fluffy... and involved intoxication. And the thing is, rule of thumb, if you can't slash them without booze, you're not really slashing them. Booze is the cop out in the world of ficcing, the easy, always-works way to slash all characters. (Okay, except Norrington and Will, that took a hurricane, alcohol, and a concussion, but that was the ultimate "These characters have no chemistry to speak of!" RP session between me and my friend Lizzie...).

Definetly agree on all the Will/Elizabeth points, although I think they could work as a couple for awhile, I think once Will discovers his hormones he'll be plenty experimental and flirty and like "Hello! I've got hormones! These are new!" and Elizabeth would no doubt be encouraging, and adventerous, sexually, so they'd at least likely kick off to an interesting physical relationship that would hopefully sustain them awhile in figuring out if they wanted to live together forever or not...