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Monday, November 7th, 2005 01:51 am
came back from [livejournal.com profile] bascon safely with [livejournal.com profile] spaggel and [livejournal.com profile] lierdumoa, had an absolute blast there, I was sad that [livejournal.com profile] fashes wasn't able to make it for Sunday but rl woes and ::HUGS:: dude. It was wonderful meeting [livejournal.com profile] mos_self (who is neat and engaging and tells great stories) esp since we passed by each other last year to my great dismay and [livejournal.com profile] sidewinder (who makes *shiny* earrings and necklaces and is just neat, I'm afraid I might've spazzed a bit at you ::hangs head::).

The vidshow went great! I had an awesome time color-tweaking and sound adjusting and vid-squeeing with [livejournal.com profile] morganlogan and the show went off without a hitch. I was so glad and relieved that it went off well and heard no complaints about the image quality or sound (beyond what was inherent in the source, such as Pros, or the perculiarities of the music itself, such as difficult-to-hear lyrics). Awesome programming on the part of [livejournal.com profile] morgandawn, in fact the con DVDs sold out 20 minutes after the vid-show ended.

[note: if you'd like to get a DVD, please contact ladyjax@livejournal.com. She'll let you know what's up, however please be understanding that she's doing alot of con wrap-up right now, and has to get at least 20 interested people before another order can be made.]

The panels were fun, shortfic!panel was a great conversation, crackfic!panel was a hoot, darkfic!panel let me know that apparently I'm on the darker range of things except that I don't really care for "dark"...which, let me explain. I was pretty much unsquicked by everything that got mentioned (with the exception of Michael Jackson porn, which, come to think of it, is really undead non-con idol-mentor!slash chan...and really, the mentor!slash aspect of it disturbes me more than anything else, but that's more because of my personal ideas about learning and knowledge)---aaaaaand I got sidetracked.

Oh! Darkfic! See, hell, one of my first producing fandoms is Once Upon a Time in Mexico, involving eye-gouging and other forms of permanent scarring; pain, I think, is sometimes deeply wonderful. But I love it best when I know and recognize who the torture is enacted upon (hence my need for adequate characterization) and I love it best when the physical pain is not gratuitous, and by gratuitous I mean that the pain is not just physical because the body can *heal*. The mind, however, is a trickier object; and not always cured by the magical butt-sex. Also, it doesn't hurt that the mind is more easily accessible by the written word, while the physical body is less so.

I was having a conversation with [livejournal.com profile] lierdumoa and she mentioned how she really really loves a good mindfuck, and most often they occur by methods that would be considered dark which is similar to me. Like for example, I really like non-con in fic, but I wouldn't bother reading a non-con!fic. In a sort of similar way, I adore darkness in my fics, but I like them in context of pushing these characters closer and closer to (and sometimes straight over into) that yawning abyss of the soul.

...Which is part of why I love SGA so much I think, because these very human characters are pushed to their limits in ways that are rare.

Speaking of SGA; I've been browsing SGA meta, 'cause that's what I do when there's no new eps, and came across this lovely Weir essay by [livejournal.com profile] saeva that analyzes Weir's character from the standpoint of SG-1 going into SGA. It makes an absolute beautiful amount of sense to me because not only does it explain what the writers might have been doing with their portrayal of Weir, but also helps explain how she is keeping SGA civilian, because not only does she have the political and economic backing of the world governments, but also because she's a *negotiator* first and foremost.

Weir, by [livejournal.com profile] saeva's explanation, is not a leader-diplomat, nor a diplomat-leader, she is trained and hired as a third-party negotiator. She is NOT a traditional leader-type, nor was she written to be, nor was she designed to be. Which means that during the course of SGA she's (at least in her mind) in the role of a third-party negotiator/translator between the military and scientific contingents with just enough paper-authority to pull a bit of rank.

Thus, any auxiliary power/pull of authority she might have during the course of the expedition? Is entirely due to her own talents and the respect that she earns from people. And from that point of view isn't it awesome that she's able to for the most part diffuse Sheppard's more anti-authority tendancies1 and McKay's contraryness2?

1 (which I think is more tied with Sheppard's Issues regarding the let-people-die-for-the-"Greater-Good" and the damn-military-is-being-inefficient,-the-'tards, than anything else)

2 (which I think is also tied to McKay's military = inefficient idiots complaint as well as with respect/courtesy that is given to him)

With McKay as the loudest (or perhaps the most technically qualified as compared to Beckett?) head science officer and with Sheppard as ranking military officer, had Atlantis's head been attempted by anybody with less negotiation skills or *especially* by anyone with more traditional leadership tendancies...wow. ::cringe:: Not only would there be head-butting with Sheppard and McKay, but even if the leader did have them under "control" they would be operating at far far less than their optimal efficiency. Which means for Atlantis and Earth, Can you say happy-meals on legs?

This is not to say that Weir hasn't been slowly gaining more and more leadership qualities; but it's a leadership that's very different from one which would arise from a structure such as a military hierarchy. AND MORE POWER TO HER for that, and for keeping Atlantis civilian based!

God, one of the reasons I was pulled into Atlantis was the concept of Atlantis itself...because of the sea and the sky and let me just tell you now that I came from the Pirates of the Caribbean fandom, from the pirates side. I come from the side of the fandom that fell in love when Jack Sparrow sang of his ship to Elizabeth, where,
"It’s not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

But what a ship is...what the Black Pearl really is...

Is freedom."
And and and...I know that the sea makes me explode with illogical and irrational love. To me, the place where the sea and the sky meet is where magic happens, it is change and rebirth and resurrection. It's the surface of a Stargate, it's the place of possibility, it's freedom.

To have the military be in control of this? To have military of any sort be it army, air force, marine, or navy, be in control of the sea and the sky and just ::CRINGE:: GOD. ::shuddershudder FLAIL::

Every episode that I've seen so far lets me trust the writers; enough that 'Home' was just as disturbing to me as it was probably designed to have been, because I trusted and believed that something was *wrong*, that the "Earth" felt *wrong*, and that it wasn't just TPTB mis-writing and abusing the show. Because I think the writers truly love the show, and I think they understand the fans. Or at least they are very At One with the themes that hit me hard in the gut. They are very At One with this little fangirl (and pardon my puddles of squee ;D)

And Atlantis! God, because the original myth?

Atlantis was a city that sank because of its own corruption.

There are shady Ancients somewhere in there I think, and I'm not sure what it is or how it's going to show up but it's gonna be *big* and it's gonna be *devastating* and I can't *wait*.

Because, in the end, Atlantis is a city reborn, Atlantis is a city risen, Atlantis is a city that is perhaps redeemed by the love and care that Sheppard and McKay and Weir and Zelenka and Teyla and all the others lavish upon it and each other within. It's a rocky love affair, the one between the city and it's inhabitants, and there's mistakes and betrayals and attacks, and it will *hurt* at times, it will.

But there will be joy, too, and laughter, and the brilliant magic, that occurs at the kiss of the sea with the sky.
Monday, November 7th, 2005 07:15 am (UTC)
I love your SGA thoughts.

To have the military be in control of this? To have military of any sort be it army, air force, marine, or navy, be in control of the sea and the sky and just ::CRINGE:: GOD. ::shuddershudder FLAIL::
God yes! I feel really protective of Atlantis when it comes to military presence there. When all those troups arrived through the stargate in, um, The Siege, my first reaction was 'oh hell, no! don't mess with my city, even though they brought help and weapons and other means to defend this city.

There are shady Ancients somewhere in there I think, and I'm not sure what it is or how it's going to show up but it's gonna be *big* and it's gonna be *devastating* and I can't *wait*.
Agreed. Atlantis really has this darker side (which is one of the reasons it's so different from SG1, imo) and there were times where I thought 'omg, they are really going there. wow'. Cannot wait for the second part of S2. *bounces*
Monday, November 7th, 2005 01:26 pm (UTC)
Yeah, and Col. Everett was just so smarmy and *so* sure that he would get in and save the day and I was so looking forward to the eventual karmic smackdown that was coming.
Yes, hubris is such a bitch.

I just love my brand new show/fandom.

ps: Have you seen (some of) S2 yet? Just so I know for future reference/squee-age. :))
Monday, November 7th, 2005 02:06 pm (UTC)
Oh, okay, awesome. (S2 yay!!)

Ford...

Can't wait for you thoughts.
Monday, November 7th, 2005 08:39 am (UTC)
Ancients!! You're so right!!! Oh no! THAT IS GOING TO BE SO BRILLIANT!! Because they own it but now WE own it and who are those old bastards anyway? Huh? They're all future-y and white-attire-wearing, but I don't like em one bit. They may have built Atlantis, but they don't love it like we do.

Wow. I don't know whether this will happen or not, but it would make a DAMN fine story.
Monday, November 7th, 2005 09:57 am (UTC)
Mmm, fascinating. That's a lot of food for thought right there.
Monday, November 7th, 2005 12:04 pm (UTC)
And and and...I know that the sea makes me explode with illogical and irrational love. To me, the place where the sea and the sky meet is where magic happens, it is change and rebirth and resurrection. It's the surface of a Stargate, it's the place of possibility, it's freedom.

Yes yes yes! Oh yes. My one true "religion" that I think I've belonged to since I was born is centered around what you describe there, what is so difficult to describe about the power and magic and... and... yes, all of that, about the oceans. I am amazed to hear that it is being well portrayed in SGA (which I cannot get on TV here and which I have been looking to download the first few eps of, but have not found yet). I've been trying not to read your SGA entries too closely so I wouldn't spoiler myself in case I can manage to aquire it to watch myself, but that really caught my eye and reached in and connected. Yes, it's like that. *sigh*
Monday, November 7th, 2005 01:18 pm (UTC)
Thanks! I'd actually seen that community before and pointed [livejournal.com profile] nekonexus to it (because his computer is the one with the dvd-burner and we like to watch it from the couch on the tv), but he said the downloads for SGA he found had all been taken down due to excessive bandwidth or something. I'll have to ask him to take another look, and maybe put up a request.
Monday, November 7th, 2005 12:24 pm (UTC)
Before Atlantis came out, I was dead sure that somewhere in canon it'd been mentioned that the Ancients brought themselves down. I got this idea even more in my head when the name Wraith came out as the folks that destroyed the Ancients--because, honestly, the glowy Ascended? Looked pretty damn wraith-like to me. So I always, always figured that it was another faction of the Ancients who brought them as a whole down.

I still think they did, actually. I think someone *made* the Wraith in their search for Ascension and/or eternal life. The Wraith are pretty much everliving with proper nourishment... And we know the Ancients were not, mm, entirely ethical in all pursuits of Ascension knowledge, to wit the capture and experimentation on the semi-sentient energy creature and the fact that they *left it locked up* when they evacuated.

I have my own theory as to how the Ancients came to be as they are (and all the other eighty-kabillion planets that have humans or humanoids on them and no apparent Goa'uld transplantation) and why we are, physiologically, the closest thing to the Ancients, but I will keep that to myself as it is a moderately cracked theory and apt to get jossed anyway.

But anyway--it comes down to the fact that the Tau'ri and the Ancicents are, basically, the same race. And certain things are just inherent to our genetics, to being physiologically human... if you have the fucked up folks in our world...

There are/were some not-nice-Ancients out there. And it's entirely possible many of them are the ones who Ascended because, well, the research into Ascension? Not what *I* call entirely ethical from anything we've seen. And, well, there's the fact that we know they jealously guard Ascension. Oma Desala is seen as almost a heretic and has to tread very lightly because she thinks that it is the Ascended's duty to guide others to that higher plane of existence. Implied by that is that the others *don't* think lower races should be guided up there, and that just doesn't say lovely things now does it?
Monday, November 7th, 2005 01:07 pm (UTC)
Also, caveat: I have not seen S2, so, yeah. I don't mind spoilers, it's just that my opinions may be a little wack since I am missing 1/2 a season of canon.
Monday, November 7th, 2005 01:17 pm (UTC)
Interesting theory! ...I tend to think that it was more research into anti-aging suchlike because of some of the stuff Carson Beckett said about the dismembered Wraith hand back in, like, Rising, that being that the cells have known of the normal stumbling blocks/proteins/whatnot that lead to degeneration and, well, eventually death.

That sounds kind of engineered to me. And would require Ancient-level skillzorz, methinks. I mean, even the Asgard aren't that badass or they'd be using that tech already.

Of course... it could be a combination of the two, really. Kill two birds with one stone--work on anti-aging things at the same time as finding a way to knock down some overpopulation.
Monday, November 7th, 2005 04:20 pm (UTC)
I'm glad the vidshow went well and you had a good time. :)
Tuesday, November 8th, 2005 04:00 am (UTC)
Oh, yummy thoughts! (But psst, it's Weir, not Wier.)