Thursday, March 31st, 2005 07:29 pm
FYI: I ****LOATHE**** the telephone. So I procrastinate heavily on any and all calls I have to make. ::hugs fandom people:: sorry about that.

Part of it is that I think I have horrible phone voice, another is that I think I have a horrible voice, in general, and the sheer physical fact of a phone makes me all the more aware that I am *speaking*. Part of how I got over my fear of communicating badly is to be totally oblivious to the fact that I am possibly making a fool of myself; and thus part of what I'm making myself oblivious to is the fact that my voice is making sounds.

Dunno if I'm the only one like this.

Thoughts?
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 07:37 pm (UTC)
Hmm - you know, I've never really thought too much about why it is I hate the phone (though man, do I ever), but that sort of reminds me. When I was little I used to lip-synch the pledge of allegiance rather than actually say it, because I could *hear* myself speaking in my head, and had not yet realized that I was not as loud to other people as I was to myself.

Linzee
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 07:52 pm (UTC)
Heh. I don't think it was so much that I had trouble identifying my own voice in relation to others, as I was just extremely self-conscious - I'd been told in kidnergarten my voice "sounded like a boy" and that was sort of that, for a few years I wouldn't talk unless I had to. That was also my phase where I wouldn't wear bright colors at all, lest I draw attention to myself. I was...an odd child. Just a bit. *G*

Linzee
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 07:41 pm (UTC)
I used to hate talking on the phone because I never knew how to fill awkward silences. There's no escape and you can't key off of body language or anything. And then my job forced (and still forces) me to use the phone as my primary means of contact with people. So what I did, at least for work and a bit for friends and family, is plan out how I would start the conversation and have a very definite purpose in mind.

My only problem is that I still don't like just chatting on the phone, unless I actually have something to say. Heh.
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 07:41 pm (UTC)
I think everyone hates their voice. I dislike mine moderately, but I just try to ignore it. Part of this, I think, is that we always sound different on a recording than what we hear in our heads, and when we hear ourselves in that context, it can be a bit surprising and unsettling. For instance, I never realized how high-pitched and squealy I can be over the phone until I heard myself on an answering machine.
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 09:54 pm (UTC)
Wow, seriously? Did you have a lisp or something? I can definitely see how that would give you a complex ...
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 07:45 pm (UTC)
i'm terrible about phone calls. it's more of an anxiety issue for me (general anxiety disorder and/or social anxiety disorder, take your pick) than an issue of being concerned about how my voice sounds. i just get terrified about the whole thing and never end up doing what i'm supposed to (like call friends to make plans).
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 07:47 pm (UTC)
I used to despise using the phone. I'm still not fond of it, but I'm okay with it, because I have to answer the phone at work. Being forced to be polite on the phone helped me learn how to do it when I'm not at work. *shrug*
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 08:17 pm (UTC)
Mostly because I dislike talking, I think. I see it as superfluous. Why can't friends just sit in silence? They can, but not on the phone. You have to make noise. Stupid phone.
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 07:50 pm (UTC)
I hate the phone. Hate it, hate it, hate it. I hardly ever use it. It's part social anxiety, part hating my phone-voice (I sound like I'm 7), and part the fact that I find it awkward to speak to someone who I can't see. I know that sounds weird, but I can't talk out loud to some who isn't right it front of me. It's just too odd. Anyway, you're not alone.
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 07:53 pm (UTC)
Just about everyone I know online hates the phone. Me, I can deal with making spontanious personal phone calls, but I canNOT handle having to talk to a receptionist about the nature of my call. I have people-judging-me issues.
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 07:59 pm (UTC)
I hate the phone. Hate it, and avoid it whenever possible. I personally think I have a lovely voice, and It's not from feeling in any way inadequate on the speaking end of things.

I have great difficulty retaining information I have received in a purely auditory setting. I have to take notes on the phone to remember what someone has said to me. I feel like an idiot when I can't remember things people who have spoken to me on the phone have said.

It could be that your learning style does not easily handle auditory input? Just a thought.
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 08:10 pm (UTC)
I despise phones. I have social anxiety and can't communicate as well verbally as I can in writing, so it's not my favourite way to get in touch with someone. Part of the reason I leave the 'net permanently connected (aside from my addiction) is so people can't get through on the landline. I pretty much go fetal when I hear a phone or doorbell/knock.
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 08:11 pm (UTC)
I don't mind my voice when I'm just talking. I don't like hearing recordings of my voice. It's kinda like watching your vid at a con. It never looks/sounds like you thought it did.
Saturday, April 2nd, 2005 04:24 am (UTC)
Actually, it's mostly the holes in your head. ...er. The sinus cavities, the mouth and the throat, that is. Your voice resonates in these hollows and reach you through the bones of your head vibrating as well as through the air. And since bone has higher density than air, the sound waves become distorted, and that leads to your voice sounding different to you than it does to everyone else.

As for the phone phobia, I have it too, and I like my voice. I mean, I'm a vocalist. It's the invisible time limit that gets me. You have to get what you want said said and as quickly as possible, and that just... flusters me, because I need to think things through before I say them, and that doesn't work on the phone. I find that writing everything I need to say down and thinking about what the person on the other end might be likely to say and how to respond to that helps, but if they deviate from my written little script, I'm still likely to panic. >.
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 08:14 pm (UTC)
The phone is one of the most evil inventions ever thought up by any sadist. I hate it. I hate having to speak with someone I cannot see. I hate having to rely entirely on verbal communication. I hate the social aspect of it. I hate this hard plastic thing pressed to my ear because it hurts.

::takes deep breath::

My brain also has serious problems with "translating" sounds that are at similar volumes. So if someone is on the phone with me, and they've got noise in the background, or I've got noise in the background, and that noise is around the same level as the person's voice, I simply cannot comprehend what the person is saying. Plus, I'm very sensitive to sounds in certain registers, and phone static? Hits a lot of those registers. I have yet to find a phone entirely free of static to my ear, and so there's actual physical pain from that, plus the pain from the plastic itself.

Yeah, there are days when I wish I could live in some kind of anti-grav environment where nothing, and I mean nothing, ever touched me. But phones are a special kind of hell, aggravating me on more levels than I can really articulate.
Sunday, April 3rd, 2005 08:29 pm (UTC)
There's a technical term for the brain's inability to separate out and translate sounds of the same volume/range/tone, but I can't remember what it is. I think it's often related to TMJ, though I don't have that.

::hugs you back::
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 08:19 pm (UTC)
The thing about the phone? It's there for ME to call OUT. I like to chat and visit on my own time, but I hate being disturbed--even by my mother! OTOH, if I expect a call, I'm cool. Most of the time. Or else I don't answer. ME. Call OUT. I think this is because I used to be a collection/customer service agent for a long time.
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 09:41 pm (UTC)
Oh no, you're not alone. The only people I talk on the phone to are my family, but that's not exactly hard. I hate answering it, hate making calls (I sympathize with putting off calls for-forever because I do the exact same thing. And then I'll finally break down and do it and then go, see, wasn't that easy? No, no it fucking wasn't.)

I really don't know what the deal is, probably part shyness and probably part that I stutter.
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 10:26 pm (UTC)
Oh, it's so not just you. :)

I will. not. use the phone unless I have to. It's for making plans that can't be made in person or online for whatever reason. I hte not being able to read the other person's body language, especially considering how much a part of our language the physical has become - it's really easy to misinterpret someone's words, but much harder when you can see their eyes.
Also, I have that whole social anxiety thing, and interacting with people I can't see and often don't know is very uncomfortable.
AND, I used to lisp, and so I'm extremely conscious of my voice on the phone (I am, however, the best person to get if you have to collect information, because I enunciate every. bloody. syllable.)

Hate the phone. Hate cell phones even more. The intarweb, however... she is my friend.
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 11:11 pm (UTC)
I hate using the phone, despite being a good communicator face-to-face. I particularly hate phoning people I don't know well (such as clients, unfortunately!). The advent of e-mail has been a godsend for me!

I think it comes down to not being able to see body language while I'm talking to someone. I can't tell how they're feeling, if they're annoyed to be disturbed, or just being polite, or whatever. Probably stems from my inner paranoia/lack of self esteem.
Thursday, March 31st, 2005 11:38 pm (UTC)
Telephones are of the devil.
Friday, April 1st, 2005 12:09 am (UTC)
*cough* social anxiety and avoidant tendencies + not a great auditory info processor = HATE THE PHONE.

I'm with you.
Friday, April 1st, 2005 01:29 am (UTC)
*hand in the air* I hate the phone too. I'm not as bad as I used to be, but the people who call me are mostly just my mother, sister, Sprog or Ihlanya the Squizzer. Oh, or Himself of course! So when I pick up the phone I expect it's one of them. If it isn't, I go all tongue-tied and shy. Silly, eh!
Friday, April 1st, 2005 02:00 am (UTC)
I think part of it is that the phone messes with your ability to "read the room". You have to judge the reactions of the other just by sound of their voice (distorted) and lengths of the pauses (also often distorted long-distance). So hard! When it's a business call, I aim for "politely firm" and feel like I land anywhere between "bitch" and "pushover" for my audience. When it's someone you've met face-to-face, they often sound so weirdly different, kinda tense and affected (probably same telephone issues... But the thing is, when we have issues, we don't really stop to think that others might, too).
Hey! Lisp is sexy! Makes people think about your tongue! Maybe it's just me being extrememly weird though >____< My phone voice sounds like a chibi boy from shounen action anime pretending to be an adult, sultry woman. With an accent. Terribly embarrassing, but I think people actually like it. Feh. Got it - flaunt it. Not like there's a choice.
Friday, April 1st, 2005 05:03 am (UTC)
The reason (to add to all the other zillion comments you have)
that I don't particularly prefer the phone (...) is that I can't
see them. So I'm stuck talking to no one in particular, holding
this device in my hand, and I feel like I'm talking to myself...
With some other person on the other end, being who knows where,
doing who knows what, while I "chat" with them. It makes me
feel uneasy.

My voice drops two octaves on the phone apparently
too. Everyone says I sound like a guy 0.o But most of the time,
I'm trying to freak them out, so it doesn't bother me.
Friday, April 1st, 2005 06:42 am (UTC)
Hate. The. Phone.

Hate.

Not just you.
Friday, April 1st, 2005 07:27 am (UTC)
I don't mind answering the phone, but I hate making phone calls. I think it's because when people call me, I am in control, because I have all the info they want. When I call others I am supplicating, hoping they know what I'm talking about, hoping they'll help me and not humiliate me or snap at me for wasting their time. Unhealthy, perhaps, but there it is. Also, when I was a kid there was a prank played on me involving making phone calls, and I think I was mentally scarred. (I want to be your friend! Call me, here's my number! The wrong number. I called over and over because I didn't understand.)

...though oddly, my voice is just about the only thing about me that I like. Not always, but sometimes.

Just remember that the people on the other end love you and want to hear from you. The voice isn't as important as what's being said.
Friday, April 1st, 2005 06:00 pm (UTC)
I sound like a little kid on teh phone. And yes, I have used this to my advantage. ::replays memory of convincing telemarketer I was a small child home alone:: Hee!

An interesting note; my mom, sister and I sound very much alike on the phone and most can only learn to tell Mom from us with practice. That includes Dad. It makes for some interesting phone calls. o_O
Thursday, April 7th, 2005 07:56 am (UTC)
Which story? The telemarketer or the ones where my SO wound up talking to my sister and he thought it was me?